16 July 2021

SMS Environmental Director John Sandford Sits Down With Podcast Host Trace Blackmore For Episode 203 of the Scaling Up! ‘The One With Our Across The Pond Legionella Expert’.

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SMS Environmental recently went transatlantic when Director John Sandford CMIOSH sat down with Trace Blackmore, CWT, LEED AP who is one of the water treatment industry's leading experts and also the host of "Scaling Up!" to discuss water regulations outside of the USA.

The podcast is the 203rd episode of the series and digs deep into a number of topics including how Legionella control is controlled in the UK, vs in the USA and how the mismanagement of buildings can lead to disinfections being ineffective, regardless of how well they are carried out. 

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Trace Blackmore, CWT, LEED AP, is one of the water treatment industry’s leading experts and the host of “Scaling Up!,” a podcast for water treatment experts and novices alike that is quickly becoming the go-to resource in the industry. It’s the podcast for water treaters, by water treaters.

The goal of each“Scaling Up!”podcast is simple: Encourage water treaters to treat the industry with the respect it deserves.

“I want to motivate water treaters to reach out to get better and push themselves to always be learning,” says Trace, who credits his father with instilling in him the desire to learn the ins and outs of the water treatment business. “If I can get you to think about that one thing that makes a difference, I have done my job.”
Trace Blackmore, CWT, LEED AP

John set up SMS Environmental back in 2001, with the company celebrating its 20th Anniversary just last month. John has over 30 years of practical research experience in water treatment and Legionella control. He is also a member of the Water Management Society (WMSoc) Council and has recently become a member of the AWT in America, which has been an exciting, albeit natural next step.

SMS Environmental are thrilled to be involved in the latest episode of “Scaling Up!” and we’re very excited for you to listen to what John had to say and his opinions on the topics discussed during the session (those who know John personally will know that he’s never short of an opinion) so it should be a good listen!

Visit the SCALING UP! H2O Website here: https://scalinguph2o.com/

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About SMS

Established in 2001, SMS Environmental is the UK’s first water treatment service provider to be accredited by UKAS for the competency of their legionella risk assessments. They currently undertake in excess of 500 assessments & 5000 tasks a month for private and public sector organisations including many of the UK’s largest prestigious sites. SMS Environmental has offices in Harwell, Derbyshire, Cardiff (Wales) and Glasgow (Scotland) all of which offer National Response services and provide tailored services to nearly 1500 clients nationwide.


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